[159402] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Thu Jan 10 08:57:20 2013
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <20130109173413.GA30693@pob.ytti.fi>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:57:03 -0500
To: Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jan 9, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi> wrote:
> Having RS232 or USB console on forwarding-plane is not OOB. And even =
OOB
> version of these is of limited value, you can't send images over them, =
you
> can't multiplex over them and RS232 OOB 'server' costs more than =
switch. So
> you get less and you pay more.
> HW + SW wise it's extremely simple contraption, all the code and HW =
needed
> is proven.
I am very much against USB consoles. there can be a whole plethora of =
issues involved from OS-level to the device-level. When I'm on the =
console, things have already gone bad. I don't need to find out if the =
vendor has the right 'entitlement' established for me to download and =
load the driver or anything else..
It *needs* to work, I can't wait for the device on the other end to =
negotiate with the host system, etc..=20
I understand why people want it, but USB as it exists today isn't the =
way. (I can screw down a rs232 connector and it can be secure, I can't =
attach USB with the same certainty).
- Jared=
