[159094] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: why haven't ethernet connectors changed?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Wieling)
Fri Dec 21 12:32:30 2012
From: Eric Wieling <EWieling@nyigc.com>
To: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund@medline.com>, "nanog@nanog.org"
<nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:30:00 -0500
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The only thing I would change about RJ-45 is a longer tab (but make it opti=
onal) for when you care more about ease of removal than cable tangles. Po=
lycom phones are hell to try and unplug the RJ-45, for example.
-----Original Message-----
From: Naslund, Steve [mailto:SNaslund@medline.com]=20
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 11:43 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: why haven't ethernet connectors changed?
Please, no connectors that do not lock into place. Is plugging in the
RJ-45 that much of a task? Most portable devices are going wireless in any=
case so they are not an issue. The RJ-45 has worked OK for me. The AUI c=
onnectors have a special place in networking hell. What an incredibly horr=
ible mechanical design they were? The flip side of the question is why you=
think the RJ-45 should change. You could argue that you don't usually nee=
d all eight wires but every time we tried that argument someone came up wit=
h a compelling reason to use more wires. I like that it is very standard. =
In the fiber world it is a continuous issue of hybrid patch cords dealing =
with ST,SC,LC and all the other variants out there. It would be a huge nig=
htmare if the same thing happened with copper Ethernet.
I am also not a huge fan of the USB connector because I have seen a lot of =
those break and there is no positive retention. Magnetic is cute but has n=
o place in a datacenter and even with desktops I can picture a lot of suppo=
rt calls because someone bumps a wire that knocks the mag connector out of =
place. I really hate dongles of all types but I guess you don't really hav=
e a choice with devices so physically thin that you can't get the jack in t=
here.
I think I will keep the RJ for now.
Steven Naslund
-----Original Message-----
From: Aled Morris [mailto:aledm@qix.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:38 PM
To: Michael Thomas
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: why haven't ethernet connectors changed?
On 20 December 2012 18:20, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote
> ethernet
> connectors haven't changed that I'm aware in pretty much 25 years.
15-pin D-type AUI connectors with slide latches?
BNC for thinwire?
I do agree though, something more like mini-USB would be more appropriate f=
or home Ethernet use.
Aled
