[158968] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brandon Lehmann)
Tue Dec 18 10:13:10 2012
From: Brandon Lehmann <brandon@bitradius.com>
To: Kyle Creyts <kyle.creyts@gmail.com>, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:10:50 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CA+TcGd_tgj+_p99xpCuCBLndxHkjsAO8GgrRJtNA3GOWtA1B0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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In any event, I'm pretty sure that I'd rather get hit with "tampering with
evidence" versus them retrieving data that may incriminate me. I believe
this may be a the "lesser of two evils" game.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle Creyts [mailto:kyle.creyts@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 2:52 PM
> To: Jeroen van Aart
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please
> help if you can.
>
> In most jurisdictions, wouldn't using a de-gaussing ring in the door
> frame to wipe any equipment being removed constitute "tampering with
> evidence" or interfering with an investigation if the authority in
> question is in possession of a warrant/subpoena?
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On 11/30/2012 02:02 PM, Naslund, Steve wrote:
> >
> >> OK, there must be a lot more paranoid people out there than I
> thought
> >>
> >
> > for awhile? I am sure he will let you out to go to the bank, get
> > your
> >> stuff, and leave town. I think you have seen way to many movies.
> >>
> >
> > So if the cops show up at his door tomorrow and say "Here's all your
> >> stuff back, there was no evidence of a crime.", you are OK with this
> >> guys keeping the "defense fund"?
> >>
> >
> > I for one vote for installing a de-gauging ring in your door frame.
> > any removal of equipment you don't approve of will be wiped. That and
> > encryption possibly combined with hiding the "real" OS (truecrypt can
> > do that).
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Jeroen
> >
> > --
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> >
>
>
> --
> Kyle Creyts
>
> Information Assurance Professional
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