[1589] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kim Hubbard)
Fri Jan 26 21:29:50 1996
From: Kim Hubbard <kimh@internic.net>
To: cais@dune.silkroad.com (Tim Bass)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 21:19:32 -0500 (GMT-0500)
Cc: kimh@internic.net, Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net, cidrd@iepg.org,
nanog@merit.edu, iana@isi.edu, iab@isi.edu
In-Reply-To: <199601270158.UAA26142@dune.silkroad.com> from "Tim Bass" at Jan 26, 96 08:58:26 pm
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This is great, I feel like one of the in crowd - getting slammed by
Tim Bass :-)
Seriously, I wasn't trying to put it on an emotional level - just
trying to point out some basic issues that haven't been mentioned.
Sometimes you have to do what's best for the Internet as a whole
while not necessarily what's best for you personally. Some are
willing to do this and some aren't.
Also, I wasn't referring to the ISPs that want portable address space.
As I stated in the message I understand why ISPs don't want to be
dependant upon their upstream providers.
Kim
> [ ... ]
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> Someone summarizes:
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> >
> > Now, I'm sure that every ISP reading this message cares very deeply
> > for the Internet (as does the InterNIC) and utilizes address space
> > efficiently, etc. But consider the hundreds of ISPs that don't.
> >
> >
>
> Sorry, but here we go again, back to playing on emotions and guilt.
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> " .... cares very deeply for the Internet..... "
>
> Just because a start-up ISP desires portable address space and does
> not want to be dependent on a up-stream service provider does not
> translate to the emotional position....
>
> " .... don't care very deeply for the Internet..... "
>
> The natural direction of a conversation that has sunk to this level
> is to degrade to name calling, slander, and high emotional feelings.
>
> PLEASE do not degenerate this conversation to this level. It is
> not a "good and evil" "care and don't care" "black and white" issue.
> Just because ISPs (whom ever they are and where ever they many live)
> disagree with the up-stream, provider based world that the world
> has created, their rights, opinions and ideas should be respected.
>
> If there are real 'demons' in the world, it is when issues, ideas,
> and opinions are reduced to 'black and white', 'good and bad'
> ' you are right and she is wrong' oversimplifications that serve
> only to mask the real issues.
>
> { and then ... there are those in the world who enjoy that tact as well }
>
> Take care,
>
> Tim
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