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Legal Crap [was: William was raided for running a Tor exit node.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Sat Dec 1 05:21:48 2012

From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <m2fw3qzhpb.wl%randy@psg.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 05:21:31 -0500
To: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Nov 30, 2012, at 20:25 , Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

>> Not a lawyer.
>=20
> than stfu with the legal crap

It amazes me how people feel free to opine on things like networking =
without a certification, but if you don't have a law degree, suddenly =
they believe you are incapable of understanding anything regarding the =
law.

As for "the legal crap", most of what is posted is not on-topic here.  =
There are laws & legal implications which are operational, though.  And =
even though I am not a lawyer, I need to understand them or I cannot do =
my job.  My lawyer is not going to pick which datacenter to lease, even =
if he knows a metric-ass-ton more about indemnification than I ever will =
(at least I hope than I ever will - that shit is BOOOOOOOOOORING).

I appreciate people who have researched and understand the topic giving =
their insights - just like I do regarding BGP, MPLS, IPv6... okay, no =
jokes about IPv6. :)  And, just like with networking topics, I do not =
appreciate people taking up 10K+ of their not-so-closest-friends' time =
with half-baked ideas from people who have not taken the time to =
understand the subject matter.  However, I do not believe the only way =
to go from the latter group into the former is to pass the bar.  (And if =
so, in what state/country? what specialty? etc., etc.)

I guess this is a long-winded way of saying: If all you have to say is =
"STFU", maybe you should take your own advice?

--=20
TTFN,
patrick



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