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Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Nov 30 20:56:23 2012

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAGbD49o0PqRQpPK1fMAQfYjefwKdJw0HyS+j++3DZ+M_xcKuKg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:52:23 -0800
To: Jason Baugher <jason@thebaughers.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

> 
> Not only that, but the list of people who proclaimed their innocence only
> to be proven guilty is very long. I can't vouch for countries outside of
> the USA, but here at least we don't get subpoenas on a whim. They are
> usually part of a very long drawn-out investigation, and they usually are
> for a very good reason.

Usually, but not always. I've seen a number of subpoenas and a few search
warrants that were:

	Ridiculously broad
	Overreaching
	Really stretched the concept of probable cause

As in all else, not all LEOs are good actors.

Owen



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