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Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Kristolaitis)
Fri Nov 30 16:53:29 2012
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:53:16 -0500
From: Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d@alter3d.ca>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <2A76E400AC84B845AAC35AA19F8E7A5D0D7120F5@MUNEXBE1.medline.com>
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On 11/30/2012 04:01 PM, Naslund, Steve wrote:
> I am a little concerned that this guy keeps a safe deposit box with a burner
> phone and cash around. Is he a CIA agent? :)
Anyone who DOESN'T have such things stashed away somewhere is, IMHO,
incredibly naive and taking on quite a large amount of risk.
The likelihood (and hope) is that you'll never need it. But on the off
chance that you get f***ed by the legal system because of some power
hungry, mouth-breather cop who can't/won't understand that you've done
nothing wrong -- or worse, that you're easily provably within the law,
but he "believes" that you're not and drags you through the process
anyways -- you'll be very happy that you stashed away that old unlocked
cell phone, old laptop, change of clothes and cash.
I'm a (legal) firearms owner... up here in Canada, where some previous
governments enacted extreme anti-gun legislation, that pretty much means
that if I so much as sneeze in a way that a cop doesn't like, I can have
my life ruined pretty damned fast (not quite, but really close). I
wouldn't bet against me having an excrement-hitting-the-oscillator stash
like this guy does. ;)
(Note: I don't mean to imply that all cops are power hungry
mouth-breathers intent on destroying the lives of citizens. Most cops
are fundamentally good people and do a great job. But like every other
profession, there ARE bad cops out there, and it's within the realm of
possibility that you'll deal with one of them one day.)
> Why would I donate to his legal defense when he has not been charged
> yet? A little premature, no?
>
If you think that legal costs in a criminal case only start when you've
been formally charged, you're grossly misinformed. At what point you
personally decide to donate is one thing, but implying that someone
doesn't need a defense fund prior to charges being laid is a bit naive
about how the process works.
- Pete
