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Re: IP over SONET considered harmful?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Naiming Shen)
Mon Mar 23 16:08:15 1998

To: Paul Ferguson <ferguson@cisco.com>
cc: Yakov Rekhter <yakov@cisco.com>, Alan Hannan <alan@globalcenter.net>,
        nanog@merit.edu, nshen@mci.net
In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:23:57 EST."
             <3.0.5.32.19980320152357.007e9d30@lint.cisco.com> 
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:32:51 -0500
From: Naiming Shen <nshen@mci.net>

 >
 >Not decrementing the IP TTL at each LSR hop no more breaks the
 >IP TTL mechanisms than does frame-relay or ATM.
 >

It should be the business of ISPs to hide or not to hide the lower
layer infrastructures. Unless someone really wants to use 'traceroute'
to see the DACs, ADMs, verilinks, DL3100s, etc.
A more flexible 'knob' would be cool, something like combining the 'cos'
bits in the labels with the decision to decremening or not. This will give
the management station the power to 'trace' even the regular trace packet
can't do.

 >
 >- paul
 >
 >ps. In fact, there may even be some ISP's that would prefer that
 >their internal L2 infrastructure remain invisible.
 >
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