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Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Thu Nov 29 13:46:25 2012
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <20663.41534.80038.454363@world.std.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:45:59 -0500
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:58 , Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
> On November 29, 2012 at 11:45 patrick@ianai.net (Patrick W. Gilmore) =
wrote:
>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:17 , Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> It's funny, it's all illusion like show business. It's not hard to =
set
>>> up anonymous service, crap, just drop in at any wi-fi hotspot, many
>>> just ask you to click that you accept their T&Cs and you're on. =
Would
>>> they raid them, I was just using one at a major hospital this week
>>> that was just like that, if someone used that for child porn etc? =
But
>>> I guess stick your nose out and say you're specifically offering =
anon
>>> accts and watch out I guess.
>>=20
>> Do you think if the police found out child pr0n was being served from =
a starbux they wouldn't confiscate the equipment from that store?
>=20
> I dunno, has it ever happened?
No idea. However, I would not be the least bit surprised. In fact, I =
would be surprised if they failed to do so, after having "proof" that =
child pr0n was served from one.
> I mean confiscated the store's
> equipment, I assume that's what you mean. Is that because no one has
> ever been involved with child porn etc from a Starbucks? Does that
> seem likely? I don't know, really.
>=20
> And why would confiscating it from one location address the issue if
> they offer anonymous hotspots (I don't know if they do but whatever,
> there are plenty of others) at all locations and they're one company?
>=20
> It would seem like they'd have to confiscate the equipment at every
> Starbucks in their jurisdiction, which could be every one in the US
> for example.
They didn't confiscate every Tor exit node in the US once they found =
something nefarious emanating from one.
--=20
TTFN,
patrick
