[158363] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Wed Nov 28 19:42:59 2012
To: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:28:06 -0000."
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:42:33 +1100
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
In message <CFB0F4DE-3E7E-4CC2-A491-3B0E9741CF38@arbor.net>, "Dobbins, Roland" writes:
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:18 AM, Bj=F8rn Mork wrote:
>
> > But I will absolutely refuse the idea that anyone incapable of getting
> their application tested with IPv6 are able to create any useful
> networking software.
>
> Who's talking about 'networking software'?
Read the Subject.
> 'Networking software' is irrelevant for the vast majority of the
> userbase. I'm talking about ordinary applications which do stupid things
> like edit documents and calculate payroll runs.
>
> The main points I've taken away from this discussion is that a
> non-trivial proportion of ISP operational personnel have no idea what
> life is like within the enterprise organizations which are their
> customers; that they have a grossly exaggerated view of the skillsets,
> levels of engagement, and degrees of empowerment amongst run-of-the-mill
> software developers; and that they are either incapable of or are
> unwilling to step down from the rarified atmospheres of the technical
> heights they inhabit relative to the hoi polloi and even attempt to
> understand the constraints under which they operate.
>
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> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>
>
> Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.
>
> -- John Milton
>
>
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