[158361] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Wed Nov 28 19:18:37 2012
From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:17:55 +0000
In-Reply-To: <01ee01cdcda3$86e4b030$94ae1090$@tndh.net>
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:04 AM, Tony Hain wrote:
> Getting the cpe vendors to ship in quantity requires the ISP engineering =
organizations to say in unison "we are deploying IPv6 and will only recomme=
nd products that pass testing".
Do you see any evidence of that occurring? I don't.
Also, a lot of broadband consumers and enterprise organizations buy and dep=
loy their own CPE. Do you see a lot of IPv6 activity there? I don't, exce=
pting an IPv6 RFP checkbox for enterprises, which doesn't have any formal r=
equirements and is essentially meaningless because of that fact.
> You claim to be looking for the economic incentive, but are looking with =
such a short time horizon that all you see are the 'waste' products vendors
> are pushing to make a quick sale, knowing that you will eventually come b=
ack for yet-another-hack to delay transition, and prop up your expertise in=
a
> legacy technology.
No.
What I am looking for is an economic incentive which will justify the [IMHO=
] wildly overoptimisitic claims which some are making in re ubiquitous end-=
to-end native IPv6 deployment.
Otherwise, I believe it will be a much more gradual adoption curve, as you =
indicate.
> The same thing happened with the SNA faithful 15 years ago, and history s=
hows what happened there.
You attribute circumstances and motivations to me which do not apply.=20
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