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Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Thomas)
Wed Nov 28 00:05:21 2012

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:04:56 -0800
From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-Reply-To: <20121128050025.13ECD2C3A132@drugs.dv.isc.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 11/27/2012 09:00 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
> In message <20121128041816.GF1304@dyn.com>, Andrew Sullivan writes:
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 08:41:13AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
>>> If they are writing network based code a tunnel broker should not
>>> be a issue.  Tunnel brokers are not that hard to use.  They are
>>> after all just a VPN and millions of road warriers use them everyday.
>> Oh, for crumb's sake.  You're quite right: millions of road worriers
>> use VPNs every day, because they involve downloading a program and
>> the config your IT dept says to use and that's it.
> And using some tunnel brokers are just as easy.
>
> Even manual config isn't that hard and is a lot easier that getting
> dialup networking was before ppp was available.
>
Let's be clear: nobody sets up a VPN because they want to.

Mike


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