[158298] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Chown)
Tue Nov 27 18:57:31 2012
From: Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:57:09 +0000
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On 27 Nov 2012, at 23:44, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> Given the number of network engineers compared to the number of tunnel =
broker subscribers just at Hurricane Electric, I don't think that =
argument holds water.
>=20
> We have actually made using a tunnel broker very easy and provide =
pretty complete configuration examples for many many platforms. The =
examples are customized to contain the configuration elements for your =
particular tunnel so in most cases they are basically copy-and-paste =
configurations.
Indeed. Our students find it pretty straightforward, and they're =
(relatively) novice developers.
> I would think that a developer of corporate network-based applications =
that is worth his salt would be one of the people pushing the IT/Neteng =
group to give him the tools to do his job. If he waits until they are =
implementing IPv6 on corporate desktops, he guarantees himself a really =
bad game of catch-up once that time arrives.
I would hope so too. That said if applications are written well, much of =
the problems can be abstracted. There's been guidance out there for =
several years, e.g. RFC4038 and many similar white papers etc etc.
Tim=