[158296] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Nov 27 18:46:13 2012
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1211271621190.85108@murf.icantclick.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:44:37 -0800
To: david raistrick <drais@icantclick.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Nov 27, 2012, at 1:26 PM, david raistrick <drais@icantclick.org> =
wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Jeroen Massar wrote:
>=20
>> As for actually getting IPv6 at home or at work, there are so many =
ways
>> to get that, thus not having it is a completely ridiculous excuse.
>=20
> bull. explain using a tunnel broker to anyone who isn't a network =
engineer.
>=20
Given the number of network engineers compared to the number of tunnel =
broker subscribers just at Hurricane Electric, I don't think that =
argument holds water.
We have actually made using a tunnel broker very easy and provide pretty =
complete configuration examples for many many platforms. The examples =
are customized to contain the configuration elements for your particular =
tunnel so in most cases they are basically copy-and-paste =
configurations.
> oh, and then make that work inside a typical F500 corp network with =
restrictions on inbound and outbound ports, no admin user access to =
desktop machines, etc.
>=20
At work you may be limited to Teredo or not at all. In such a case, it's =
time to have a conversation with your networking group and raise =
awareness.
> Until the orgs that support the developers find that v6 is a priority =
(through whatever means it happens - neteng/IT/etc pushing it up the =
chain or politics/marketing pushing it down the chain) and it's =
functional on the typical corp desktop, the typical corp application =
engineer is going to have no motivation (not to mention no time in =
his/her schedule to reengineer their platform) to support v6.
I would think that a developer of corporate network-based applications =
that is worth his salt would be one of the people pushing the IT/Neteng =
group to give him the tools to do his job. If he waits until they are =
implementing IPv6 on corporate desktops, he guarantees himself a really =
bad game of catch-up once that time arrives.
Owen
