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Re: "Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Tue Nov 27 16:45:26 2012
To: david raistrick <drais@icantclick.org>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2012 16:26:26 CDT."
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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:41:13 +1100
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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In message <alpine.BSF.2.00.1211271621190.85108@murf.icantclick.org>, david rai
strick writes:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Jeroen Massar wrote:
>
> > As for actually getting IPv6 at home or at work, there are so many ways
> > to get that, thus not having it is a completely ridiculous excuse.
>
> bull. explain using a tunnel broker to anyone who isn't a network
> engineer.
If they are writing network based code a tunnel broker should not
be a issue. Tunnel brokers are not that hard to use. They are
after all just a VPN and millions of road warriers use them everyday.
> oh, and then make that work inside a typical F500 corp network with
> restrictions on inbound and outbound ports, no admin user access to
> desktop machines, etc.
And if they are developing a product for the company there are
procedures to get the changes needed to do the development.
> Until the orgs that support the developers find that v6 is a priority
> (through whatever means it happens - neteng/IT/etc pushing it up the chain
> or politics/marketing pushing it down the chain) and it's functional on
> the typical corp desktop, the typical corp application engineer is going
> to have no motivation (not to mention no time in his/her schedule to
> reengineer their platform) to support v6.
>
>
> ...david (who hasn't read the rest of the thread. but is it really any
> different than any other?)
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