[158253] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Tue Nov 27 00:52:41 2012
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 05:52:30 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1211270628380.27834@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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2013 - the year of the NAT. (the only way a single stacked address family is going to be able to talk to
a single stacked member of a different address family... and unless we start agressive reuse of v4, this will
happen sooner than later (dual-stack is rate limited to the smaller of the address families -UNLESS- NAT makes
reuse possible... :)
But since NAT is going to be required -anyway-....
2013 will be the year of the NAT.
/bill
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 06:32:27AM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
>
> >Yet everyone (except you) insist that it does work with everything, and
> >that all this CGN and 444 stuff and 644 stuff isn't necessary, and that
> >I'm a fool for doubting all these (to me) wildly overoptimistic
> >assertions about the coming ubiquity of native IPv6, end-to-end, heh.
>
> Dual stack works with "everything". IPv6 only access does not (with
> 464XLAT it might). However, people are complaining that operators are
> focusing more on CGN and NAT44(4) than they are on IPv6. Which I can
> understand, but I believe we're getting closer to getting out of the dead
> lock. My hope is that 2013 is going to be the year we're going to see
> widespread IPv6 (dual stack) adoption on mobile devices outside of the US.
> It's looking good so far.
>
> People are advocating dual stack now (at least that's what I do), for a
> future goal of IPv6 only.
>
> The main problem with IPv6 only is that most app developers (most
> programmers totally) do not really have access to this, so no testing is
> being done.
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
