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Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Mon Nov 26 19:37:53 2012

From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:36:39 +0000
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On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:

> We have seen your kind of thinking.

You totally mischaracterize my 'kind of thinking'.  My entire career arc ha=
s been that of a technological evangelist.  Yes, I think there's a lot that=
's wrong with IPv6, but it appears that it's the only path forward we have,=
 for the foreseeable future.

It is very interesting that merely expressing skepticism regarding the rate=
, breadth, and depth of IPv6 deployment, and floating the proposition that =
some 'killer app' is needed in order to stimulate IPv6 deployment, is met w=
ith such over-the-top rhetoric and vitriol.

> So it's there when you finally decide to shut up and give us the money.

As a consumer, I currently don't have the choice of paying for native IPv6 =
connectivity because it simply isn't available in the part of the world whe=
re I reside.  Which is the part of the world that everyone says should bene=
fit the most from IPv6 - i.e., Asia - but is also a part of the world which=
 has practically zero consumer-grade IPv6 connectivity options, and preciou=
s few commercial-grade ones.

> You are much better off using your energy to plan ahead for that and ease=
 the transitions, instead of inventing scales of significance that somehow =
prove to yourself you can continue doing nothing.

Why do you think I am 'doing nothing'?  When I was at Cisco, I relentlessly=
 pushed for IPv4/IPv6 feature and performance parity, especially with regar=
ds to security and resiliency (much good that it did me, heh).  I continue =
to advocate this stance.

I am trying to point out that there are a lot of barriers to the near-unive=
rsal deployment, or at least availability, of end-to-end IPv6 connectivity.=
  It seems to me that many folks are overly optimistic in this regard, and =
that there must be some kind of incentive for ordinary users to push for IP=
v6 connectivity in order for it to achieve critical mass.

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