[158208] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Mon Nov 26 11:31:22 2012
From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:27:06 +0000
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On Nov 26, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> Ipv6 is not important for users, it is important for network operators wh=
o want to sustain their business.
I agree with the first part; not sure I agree with the second part.
> Nope. Nobody will leave money on the table by alienating users.
I think it may be possible to make money with compelling IPv6-only content/=
services/applications.
> Apple and msft os' s now make a clear judgement on that. So, you need to =
update your perspective.
I'm not very interested in their judgement. So, I'm quite happy with my pe=
rspective, thanks.
> Does not matter. And it will not happen.
Proof by repeated assertion doesn't sway me.
> The better question, for an isp, is what kind of ipv4 secondary market bu=
dget do you have? How hot is your cgn running? Like ALGs much ? Security a=
nd attribute much ?
These are important, yes.
> Again , users dont care or know about v4 or v6. This is purely a network =
operator and app issue (cough cough ... skype).
It's my contention that IPv6 won't be widely deployed unless/until end-cust=
omers call up their ISPs demanding this 'IPv6 or whatever' thing they need =
to accomplish some goal they have.
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