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Re: IP over SONET considered harmful?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stan Hanks)
Sat Mar 21 03:50:12 1998

From: Stan Hanks <stan@networkmercenaries.com>
To: avg@pluris.com (Vadim Antonov)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:37:10 -0600 (CST)
Cc: hannigan@xcom.net, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <35131B52.AD84BBB8@pluris.com> from Vadim Antonov at "Mar 20, 98 05:43:46 pm"

>  Like IP over raw fiber.  Our friendly WDM vendors would love to get rid
>  of SONET.  SS7?  What's that? ;)

Sorry, gotta weigh in here...

As great as POS is, and as exciting as running IP on optical OC-48 onto WDM
gear sounds (no piece of cake, believe me...), there is STILL room for
ATM. More than just the much-touted network traffic engineering value, too.

Simply put, because of the B-ISDN heritage of ATM, I can actually run 
synchronous circuits over it (using circuit emulation) and have it work right. 
Can't get there from here with any IP-over-glass solutions, alas.

And as much as an "IP over everything" bigot as I've been for the last
17 years or so, I still run into situations where what I *HAVE* to
have is some kind of synchronous circuit. Wish it weren't so, but I can't
just tell people "oh, you can't do that"...

Stan
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