[157126] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ESR muses on, among other things, the early IETF
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Sat Oct 6 22:22:29 2012
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 02:20:45 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Frank Kastenholz <fkastenholz@verizon.net>
In-Reply-To: <A4F33B44-AED1-4C42-85B7-8647C0D1AC6A@verizon.net>
Cc: "bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com" <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com>,
NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 06:12:08PM -0400, Frank Kastenholz wrote:
>
> On Oct 6, 2012, at 6:39 AM, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:14:41AM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> >> On 06/10/2012 03:20, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> >>> Those who know Fred and knew Jon personally might want to throw an oar in the
> >>> water on this blog posting from last month..
> ...
>
> > I -think- Jon and Fred were not contemporaries. Fred is
> > closer to my age than Jon.
>
> While I don't know how old either is/would be, Fred was active in the IETF before
> I joined the IESG, I appointed him chair of the pppwg in 95 or 96 or so
> (I think?) and he became IETF chair in 96 or so --- the last year I was on the IESG.
> And was at the nerds on the beach IETF in Hawaii in89 or 90 iirc
> --Jon. Passed away in 98.
>
> They certainly overlapped in their i* lives
>
> Frank Kastenholz
>
going back another decade, Fred and I both worked on/with bridging technologies,
before routing was popular. Jon had us beat by at least a decade - early 1970s.
We cme to the party in the late 70's early 80s.
/bill
