[157115] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv4 address length technical design
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Sat Oct 6 14:07:18 2012
In-Reply-To: <20592.28334.622769.539587@world.std.com>
From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:06:41 -0700
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
As I said earlier, names' structure does not map to network or physical loca=
tion structure.
DNS is who; IP is where. Both are reasonably efficient now as separate enti=
ties. Combining them will wreck one. You're choosing to wreck routing (whe=
re), which to backbone people sounds frankly stark raving mad.
If you aren't willing to consider where / routing as a problem of equal impo=
rtance ( not as end-user visible perhaps, but ultimately as important ), the=
n you're just pissing around and not being serious about exploring future op=
tions.
George William Herbert
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 6, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
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> It's occured to you that FQDNs contain some structured information,
> no?
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> -b
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> On October 5, 2012 at 21:47 bill@herrin.us (William Herrin) wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
>>> 5. Bits is bits.
>>> I don't know how to say that more clearly.
>>=20
>> Hi Barry,
>>=20
>> Bits is bits and atoms is atoms so lets swap all the iron for helium
>> and see how that works out for us.
>>=20
>> You can say "bits as bits" as clearly as you like but however you say
>> it you'll be wrong. Bits are defined by the semantics of their use.
>> Any equality or inequality between one bit and another, and in fact
>> whether they can be meaningfully compared at all, is found in those
>> semantics.
>>=20
>> Bits ain't just bits. Bits are information *in context.* Change the
>> context, change the bits.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Bill Herrin
>>=20
>>=20
>> --=20
>> William D. Herrin ................ herrin@dirtside.com bill@herrin.us
>> 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
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