[15679] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Buying b/w directly from undersea cable owners
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Almeida)
Sun Mar 15 12:37:56 1998
From: rpa@insnet.net (Richard Almeida)
To: hank@ibm.net.il (Hank Nussbacher)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:55:02 +0000 (GMT)
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980315083046.006c3608@max.ibm.net.il> from "Hank Nussbacher" at Mar 15, 98 10:30:46 am
Hi
You do need licenses in both countries to be able to use it though.
- In the UK, you need a IFL, and in the US I think its a "214"
For some cables you need to worry about the backhaul (ie the bit from
the coast to where you want it) which can be significant, and sometimes
not available on the same purchase terms (ie once of large payment and
small shared maintenance charges) Gemini and AC1 both have "city to city"
prices which effectivly means from one of their "on-net" buildings in
New York and in London. ($11m seems to be the price for city to city, $7m
just for the wet bit)
Now heres the downside :- If the cable breaks, you have no connectivity.
The 250k/pa maintenance doesnt give you a recovery route. Most telcos/cable
owners negotiate with other cable owners to give them a backup path - for
instance (I think, Cantat3 backs up to Gemini and vice-versa) - I dont
quite understand what happens if theres not enough B/W on the backup cable
spare, but I would assume that those people who own sections dont get
the backup bandwidth ..)
And, also, you dont have someone to shout at when it breaks ;-)
And, also, the cable wont get repaired if its old and breaking (ie the
cable has a life, assume 10-15 years)
You also risk the price of B/W coming down rapidly as WDM takes off, thus
leaving you with something you bought expecting 10 years use for $11M but
the price of STM1 being much less in 5 years time :-(
Cheers
Richard
In a previous message Hank Nussbacher wrote:
>
> I have a client that has the option of buying b/w directly from the undersea
> cable owners. Turns out that the new non-PTT owned cables, allow anyone to
> own STM-1's. Depending on who you use (Gemina, AC-1, etc.) prices hover
> around $7-11m purchase and around $250K/yr for maintenance. Since I do not
> know of the European counterpart to NANOG, I am hoping that people outside
> the USA (as well as inside) that have gone down this path can provide more
> info as to the pros and cons of buying from one of the standard carriers
> like Teleglobe, Sprint, Worldcom, etc. vs buying/owning the b/w yourself.
>
> Thanks,
> Hank
>
>
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