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Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Thu Sep 20 20:14:03 2012

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:13:14 -0500
From: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <50598664.9020302@gmail.com>
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On 19-Sep-12 03:46, Alex Harrowell wrote:
> On the other hand, the scarcity is of *globally unique routable*
> addresses. You can make a case that private use of (non-RFC1918) IPv4
> resources is wasteful in itself at the moment. To be provocative, what
> on earth is their excuse for not using IPv6 internally? By definition,
> an internal network that isn't announced to the public Internet
> doesn't have to worry about happy eyeballs, broken carrier NAT, and
> the like because it doesn't have to be connected to them if it doesn't
> want to be. A lot of the transition issues are much less problematic
> if you're not on the public Internet.

Actually, they're not any different, aside from scale.  Some private
internets have hundreds to thousands of participants, and they often use
obscure protocols on obscure systems that were killed off by their
vendors (if the vendors even exist anymore) a decade or more ago, and no
source code or upgrade path is available.

The "enterprise" networking world is just as ugly as, if not uglier
than, the consumer one.

S

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