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Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Thu Sep 20 01:35:21 2012

To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:58:21 EST."
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:34:23 +1000
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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In message <CAAAwwbW2OH0-CpsVwYRfDODvjOTAVaQ8WdLUSsqvShs5CoTUYQ@mail.gmail.com>
, Jimmy Hess writes:
> On 9/19/12, Joe Maimon <jmaimon@ttec.com> wrote:
> 
> > Why is this cast as a boolean choice? And how has the getting on with
> > IPv6 deployment been working out?
> 
> "getting a single extra /4"   is considered,  not enough  of a return
> to make the change.
> 
> I don't accept that, but as far as  rehabilitating 240/4,  that lot
> was already cast, I think, and the above was the likely reason,  there
> have been plenty of objections which all amounted to   "too much
> trouble to lift the pen"  and change it.....
> 
> So if you want some address space rehabilitated, by a change of
> standard, it apparently needs to be more than a /4.
> 
> 
> There is still no technical reason that 240/4  cannot be
> rehabilitated, other than continued immaterial objections to doing
> anything at all with 240/4,  and given the rate of IPv6 adoption thus
> far, if not for those,  it could possibly be reopened as unicast IPv4,
> and be well-supported by new equipment, before the percentage of
> IPv6-enabled network activity reaches a double digit percentage...

The work to fix this on most OS is minimal.  The work to ensure
that it could be used safely over the big I Internet is enormous.
It's not so much about making sure new equipment can support it
than getting servers that don't support it upgraded as well as every
box in between.

> > That the discussion continues is in and of itself a verdict.
> > Joe
> --
> -JH
> 
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