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Re: IPv6 Ignorance

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Tue Sep 18 11:09:45 2012

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <CA+3sbiPP2HU-ZDfTc3mnYckzHFH2ghg1QqhR9hWCujJ22q+RAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:08:27 -0400
To: Steve Meuse <smeuse@mara.org>
Cc: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs@seastrom.com>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Steve Meuse <smeuse@mara.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Robert E. Seastrom <rs@seastrom.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>   What do I mean when I say "it must support IPv6"?  I mean two =
things.
>>   First, full feature parity with IPv4.  Everything that works under
>>   IPv4 must work under IPv6.  If you have exceptions, you'd better
>>   document them and have a remediation plan (or work-around if it is =
a
>>   deficiency baked into the standard; there are a few of which I'm
>>   aware).  Second, the device must function perfectly in an IPv6-only
>>   environment, with not a hint of IPv4 addressing around.  Dual-stack
>>   capability is nice, but should be an easy thing to provide if you =
can
>>   handle the first two requirements.
>=20
>=20
> Well spoken RS, I'm cutting and pasting this one to my account =
team(s). Far
> too many discussions about this with them recently.  (really, you're =
just
> *now* getting v6 to work on bundled interfaces?)

We've been doing this for years on both Juniper & IOS/IOS-XR devices.  =
Must be someone else.

We do run into this whole feature parity thing often.  The vendors seem =
to be challenged in this space.  I suspect a significant part of it is =
they don't actually *use* IPv6 internally or in their lab.  We have been =
operating our network with IPv6 for many years now.  I believe in most =
cases our connection to the management plane go IPv6 only as well.

It's been fun to see the few SSH over IPv6 defects and other elements =
arise as time has passed, but those days are over.  It's just tiring now =
and no longer amusing.  (hey you kids, get off my lawn?).

- Jared=


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