[156438] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv6 Ignorance
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Tue Sep 18 11:09:45 2012
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <CA+3sbiPP2HU-ZDfTc3mnYckzHFH2ghg1QqhR9hWCujJ22q+RAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:08:27 -0400
To: Steve Meuse <smeuse@mara.org>
Cc: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs@seastrom.com>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sep 18, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Steve Meuse <smeuse@mara.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Robert E. Seastrom <rs@seastrom.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> What do I mean when I say "it must support IPv6"? I mean two =
things.
>> First, full feature parity with IPv4. Everything that works under
>> IPv4 must work under IPv6. If you have exceptions, you'd better
>> document them and have a remediation plan (or work-around if it is =
a
>> deficiency baked into the standard; there are a few of which I'm
>> aware). Second, the device must function perfectly in an IPv6-only
>> environment, with not a hint of IPv4 addressing around. Dual-stack
>> capability is nice, but should be an easy thing to provide if you =
can
>> handle the first two requirements.
>=20
>=20
> Well spoken RS, I'm cutting and pasting this one to my account =
team(s). Far
> too many discussions about this with them recently. (really, you're =
just
> *now* getting v6 to work on bundled interfaces?)
We've been doing this for years on both Juniper & IOS/IOS-XR devices. =
Must be someone else.
We do run into this whole feature parity thing often. The vendors seem =
to be challenged in this space. I suspect a significant part of it is =
they don't actually *use* IPv6 internally or in their lab. We have been =
operating our network with IPv6 for many years now. I believe in most =
cases our connection to the management plane go IPv6 only as well.
It's been fun to see the few SSH over IPv6 defects and other elements =
arise as time has passed, but those days are over. It's just tiring now =
and no longer amusing. (hey you kids, get off my lawn?).
- Jared=