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Re: Are people still building SONET networks from scratch?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Mon Sep 10 16:53:50 2012

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAEmG1=ofrFTQKt7A1zZZSNnKYdNeh0kHC1OWH65yBnfmfFQedA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:53:00 -0400
To: Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Matthew,

On Sep 10, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com> =
wrote:

> This *was* a troll, right=85?

I suspect it wasn't.  There's some people who equate various types of =
services with others.

I've been following this thread with some head-scratching going on.  =
Some folks think "ethernet" can only be a metro solution with =
STP/RSTP/MSTP/VPLS in the "cloud" of another network.

Others realize that saying ethernet as the encoding on the PHY is =
entirely different. (lan-phy, wan-phy, otu2, otu2e, etc).

When it comes to talking "SONET" vs "Ethernet" it is good to be very =
explicit.  There are a variety of ways to provide a redundant and =
protected service with ethernet vs sonet/sdh framing.

Some of the carrier provided "ethernet" products result in weird =
pricing, or plain fear.  I recall one ILEC that got an entire team on =
the phone with me for an ask about a 100m service purchase, because it =
was "huge" to them.  Their price reflected it as well :)  It was easier =
to stick with the city fiber network for backhaul as the pricing was =
sane.

- Jared




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