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Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Sullivan)
Thu Sep 6 13:59:57 2012

Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:59:13 -0400
From: Andrew Sullivan <asullivan@dyn.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <CAP-guGX9_6Ys48tuNLnSJzXYstC+eVq1quObF+ds=zKjeGtUeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 01:49:06PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:

> the DNS and won't discover anything about the DNS that can't be had
> via getaddrinfo() until long after its too late redefine the protocol
> in terms of seeking SRV records.

Oh, sure, I get that.  One of the problems I've had with the "end to
end NAT" argument is exactly that I can't see how it's any more
deployable than IPv6, for exactly this reason.  But the claim upthread
was (I thought) that the application _can't_ know about this stuff,
not that it's hard today.  Because of the 20-year problem, I think now
would be an excellent time to start thinking about how to make usable
all those nice features we already have in the DNS.  Maybe by the time
I die, we'll have a useful system!

Best,

Andrew "living in constant, foolish, failed hope" Sullivan

-- 
Andrew Sullivan
Dyn Labs
asullivan@dyn.com


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