[156093] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cameron Byrne)
Thu Sep 6 00:45:52 2012
In-Reply-To: <5AFF3D96-3204-433D-8A01-A680C455B489@delong.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 21:45:19 -0700
From: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 21:08 , Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>> Jimmy Hess wrote:
>>
>>> NAT would fall under design flaw, because it breaks end-to-end
>>> connectivity, such that there is no longer an administrative choice
>>> that can be made to restore it (other than redesign with NAT
>>> removed).
>>
>> The end to end transparency can be restored easily, if an
>> administrator wishes so, with UPnP capable NAT and modified
>> host transport layer.
>>
>
> This is every bit as much BS as it was the first 6 times you pushed it.
>
Yep.
