[155766] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fair Use Policy
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cameron Byrne)
Wed Aug 22 17:31:06 2012
In-Reply-To: <36261855-5C8D-4CE1-9A71-67A44808D95F@seanharlow.info>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:30:31 -0700
From: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: Sean Harlow <sean@seanharlow.info>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Sean Harlow <sean@seanharlow.info> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2012, at 17:06, Bacon Zombie wrote:
>
>> An ISP with a 5GB cap that is charging the end user more then 5$ total
>> {including line rental} a month should not be allow to operate.
>
> I agree entirely. The US is not exactly known for great broadband access=
, particularly where I live in the midwest (unless one is in a lucky pocket=
with FiOS, Google Fiber, or the like), yet I could easily host 200 512kbit=
/sec subscribers off my residential cable connection without even thinking =
about caps much less throttling on top of caps. It'd be oversubscribed, su=
re, but most users don't max out the line regularly so I don't think I'd ha=
ve a problem. My mobile phone is through Sprint, known for being the slowe=
st of the national 3G carriers, yet I can exceed 1mbit/sec in the middle of=
a corn field miles from anything resembling civilization and again do not =
have any monthly cap.
>
On a slow connection, "all you can eat" is effectively all "you can sip"
Nonetheless, it appears there are now 2 camps forming where (AT&T +
VZW) want to clamp down access (Facetime?) and increase price
And, in the other camp, unlimited offerings from T-Mobile, Sprint, and Metr=
o
http://www.pcworld.com/article/261247/tmobile_metropcs_roll_out_unlimited_d=
ata_plans.html
These 2 camps also cleanly break into Ma'Bell vs Other
CB
> A 5GB cap on 512kbit/sec service could be blown through in under a single=
day. That's absurd. If a 256k user maxed out their line all month, they'=
d have transferred just short of 80GB. Why in the world would it make sens=
e to limit someone to 1/16th of that just for the "privilege" of double spe=
ed which is still so slow it's beaten by any 3G service?
>
> Wired internet providers should not even be thinking about caps below the=
250GB/mo point. Neither of these example speeds can even reach that level=
, so if you feel the need to cap you are doing it wrong and should rethink =
your business model. Wireless carriers get a bit more leeway due to spectr=
um limitations, but even there a 5GB cap is barely reasonable for an entry =
level offering.
> ---
> Sean Harlow
> sean@seanharlow.info
>
>
