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Re: Update from the NANOG Communications Committee regarding recent

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Noble)
Mon Jul 30 13:58:24 2012

In-Reply-To: <8679FADA-327F-4586-928D-006A054E3686@ianai.net>
From: Steven Noble <snoble@sonn.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:57:46 -0700
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

The fix for this issue is trivial. Every new signup should require a sponsor=
 or a deposit of funds into a new member fund. Once a member has made a rele=
vant post regarding a NANOG related item their funds are returned.

If someone spams they forfeit the money and it is used to help defray the co=
sts of attending NANOG for the 99%.=20

If the poster has been sponsored by a current member, said member is flogged=
 in public at the next meeting.=20

...runs

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On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:42 AM, "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net> wrote=
:

> I'm sorry Panashe is upset by this rule.  Interestingly, "Your search - Pa=
nashe Flack nanog - did not match any documents."  So my guess is that a pos=
t from that account has not happened before, meaning the post was moderated y=
et still made it through.
>=20
> Has anyone done a data mining experiment to see how many posts a month are=
 from "new" members?  My guess is it is a trivial percentage.
>=20
> --=20
> TTFN,
> patrick
>=20
>=20
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 13:35 , valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:04:36 +0200, Panashe Flack said:
>>> list for continued activity. And just for reference - have you guys
>>> SEEN the "Linux Kernel Mailing List"? - it gets frequent spam posts
>>> and yet is perfectly able to ignore the spam/irrelevant posts and
>>> continue on its remit.
>>=20
>> For those who don't drink from the Linux-Kernel firehose, it averages
>> 1 or 2 spams per day - and anywhere from 500 to 700 postings a day.
>>=20
>> As Linus Torvalds said, back when it was averaging 200 a day:
>>=20
>> "Note that nobody reads every post in linux-kernel.   In fact, nobody who=

>> expects to have time left over to actually do any real kernel work will
>> read even half.  Except Alan Cox, but he's actually not human, but about
>> a thousand gnomes working in under-ground caves in Swansea.  None of the
>> individual gnomes read all the postings either,  they just work together
>> really well."
>>=20
>> The list managers do an incredible job of stopping spam - but even if
>> 50 or 75 a day got through, they'd just be lost in the noise.   You're sk=
ipping
>> several hundred messages a day, skipping a few more isn't any different.
>>=20
>=20
>=20


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