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Re: Can you explain why paths to same host diverge?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Boolootian)
Fri Feb 27 23:55:41 1998

From: Mark Boolootian <booloo@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: jhawk@bbnplanet.com (John Hawkinson)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 20:52:08 -0800 (PST)
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199802280111.UAA27020@all-purpose-gunk.near.net> from "John Hawkinson" at Feb 27, 98 08:11:48 pm


John,

Thanks very much for providing the cogent explanation.

You ask:
>I feel obligated to ask -- is there some reason you didn't
>direct your query to Sprint, before asking NANOG? It really seems like
>this is the kind of question they should be able to answer for you,
>and diagnose the problem to some extent. I can't see a good reason to ask
>here without asking the providers in question, first.

There were really two reasons I asked this question here.  First, it 
seemed like an interesting operational issue that I hadn't ever seen
beaten to death on NANOG.  Everyone is used to asymmetry between forward
and reverse paths, but I don't think I'd ever seen a case of asymmetry
in the forward path (at least, not while the network was stable).  Second,
I don't necessarily expect my provider to tell me why things route the way
they do; I only expect them to fix things when they're broken.  NANOG
seems the appropriate place to ask the "why" questions.  For what it's
worth, I am pursuing this with our provider.

>It is worth noting, I suppose, that optioned packets (i.e. traceroute -g
>or ping -R) are not CEF-switched, and therefore cannot be used to
>instrument the behavior of this hash. As a result, your best bet is
>limited ttl probes to various hops.

Presumably this is why the reverse traceroutes I ran didn't seem to
shed any light.

Thanks again for the end2end-interest pointer and the fine explanation.

regards,
mb
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Mark Boolootian 
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