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Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Wed Jul 18 09:48:48 2012

Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:47:57 -0500
From: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20120718132502.GA11293@pob.ytti.fi>
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On 18-Jul-12 08:25, Saku Ytti wrote:
> On (2012-07-18 09:10 -0400), valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>> You want to roll in at some entropy by adding in the current date or s=
omething, so two "Joes' Burritos and Internet" in 2 different states don'=
t generate the same value.  There's a reason that 4193 recommends a 64bit=
 timestamp and an EUI64.
> I assume business ids are federal not state, as IRS is federal? Anyhow =
I'm not saying 'this is how it should be done', I'm saying maybe there is=
 way to do this in a way which is verifiably random.

US EINs/SSNs, and various state-level ID numbers, are not random; given
our problems with identity theft, they're not guaranteed to be unique,
either.  I assume the same is true for identification numbers in most
other countries.

> 64b timestamp and EUI64 make it non-verifiable.

If you publish the numbers you used, then others can verify that those
values are reasonable.  I doubt anyone would sift through billions of
reasonable timestamps combined with the thousands of EUI64s at their
site just to find a result that was "memorable".

And, if they did, who cares?  It's not like it hurts me for them to do
so--unless I'm dumb enough to do the same thing, happened to get the
same result /and/ happened to merge with them--all of which are still
unlikely events.

S

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