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RE: Real world sflow vs netflow?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James Braunegg)
Mon Jul 16 18:54:51 2012

From: James Braunegg <james.braunegg@micron21.com>
To: David Hubbard <dhubbard@dino.hostasaurus.com>, "nanog@nanog.org"
 <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:54:09 +0000
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Dear David

From a visibility point of view, we obtain as much information as we requir=
e to know exactly what's occurring on our network where and when in real-ti=
me.

We know what's happening, on any interface on any network at any time. - th=
at being said for us the most important visibility is all about the flow of=
 traffic and packet counts.... the security side should be done at the fire=
wall level !=20

If anyone wants a demo of our sFlow setup happy to show you via a team view=
er session or something !

By the way we are using sFlow now

Kindest Regards


James Braunegg
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Hubbard [mailto:dhubbard@dino.hostasaurus.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:26 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Real world sflow vs netflow?

From: James Braunegg [mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com]=20
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> Dear All
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> Around a year ago I had the same debate sflow vs netflow vs snmp port=20
> counters. read lots of stories lots of myths lots of good information. =20
> My Conclusion
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> In the end I did real life testing comparing each platform
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> We routed live traffic (about 250mbits) from our Cisco 7200
> G2 routers though Brocade MLXe routers and exported netflow from the=20
> Cisco platform and sFlow from the Brocade platform.
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> Each router sent netflow/sflow traffic to two collectors on=20
> independent hardware (same specifications) running the same collection=20
> netflow analyzer software.
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> The end result was after hours of testing, or even days and weeks of=20
> testing there was no significant difference between traffic volumes=20
> netflow was showing vs slfow. Ie less than 0.5% variance between each=20
> environment.
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> That being said both netflow and sflow both under read by about 3%=20
> when compared to snmp port counters, which we put to the conclusion=20
> was broadcast traffic etc which the routers didn't see / flow.
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> Regardless if you're going to bill from netflow or sflow in our test=20
> environment we saw no  significant difference between either platform.

What are your thoughts on the non-billing aspects after your comparison tes=
ting; if you are/were using it for those purposes?
We don't use our current netflow for billing, just for security investigati=
on and (ideally) early alerting of abnormal activity like port scans, compr=
omised apps on servers, etc.

Thanks,

David



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