[154896] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Jul 16 12:36:42 2012
To: -Hammer- <bhmccie@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:28 -0500."
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From: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:34:48 -0400
Cc: nanog@nanog.org, Brandon Ross <bross@pobox.com>,
"Robert E. Seastrom" <rs@seastrom.com>
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:28 -0500, -Hammer- said:
> -------That is clearly a matter of opinion. NAT64 and NAT66 wouldn't be there
> if there weren't enough customers asking for it. Are all the customers naive?
> I doubt it. They have their reasons. I agree with your "purist" definition and
> did not say I was using it. My point is that vendors are still rolling out base
> line features even today.
Sorry to tell you this, but the customers *are* naive and asking for stupid
stuff. They think they need NAT under IPv6 because they suffered with it in
IPv4 due to addressing issues or a (totally percieved) security benefit (said
benefit being *entirely* based on the fact that once you get NAT working, you
can build a stateful firewall for essentially free). The address crunch is
gone, and stateful firewalls exist, so there's no *real* reason to keep
pounding your head against the wall other than "we've been doing it for 15
years".
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