[154650] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: job screening question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Noble)
Fri Jul 6 21:23:15 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAK__KzvCFqnV9F7E4kex481WMDcQwj_Mym3sWufzPLqHtP3GUQ@mail.gmail.com>
From: Steven Noble <snoble@sonn.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 18:22:37 -0700
To: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jul 6, 2012, at 5:04 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com> wrote:=
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Steven Noble <snoble@sonn.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 4:16 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>=20
>>> 6) Puffed it up a little (worked with Cisco routers, but in the 7200
>>> era, and hasn't categorized skills as recent / older), but hasn't
>>> outright lied.
>>=20
>> The 7200 is still a heavily used platform today. It has no correlation w=
ith current skill sets IMHO.
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> Would s/7200/2500/g be an adequate correction?
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> I know of customers who still have 7200s as well, but in the context
> of ISP network engineering... Perhaps I'm wrong, but my impression is
> people on this list have generally moved on by now.
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> Context matters. One can always point to lingering examples of older
> technology (if nowhere else, the Computer History Museum 8-). The
> question is whether the skill is relevant in context.
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> I built a nationwide T-1 backbone out of Livingston IRXes once (in the
> early 90s) - the IRX left my resume by the late 1990s. I know of at
> least one still humming away in a closet, but it's not a relevant
> technology. I also learned (some) shell commands on a Vax 11/750 when
> they were new and used Apple II's when they were new, and so on. None
> of these are resume-appropriate now, unless I want a job at the
> Computer History=20
Hi George,
I sent the message too soon :(
I meant to say more about how the equipment is not as important as the drive=
and willingness to work with what you have.=20
I have talked to companies who have job openings many months old for people w=
ho absolutely exist in the silicon valley. The hiring company just thinks th=
e people who apply are over or under qualified.=20
All of the great coders, engineers, etc started somewhere. The main thing th=
at separates them from the posers and acronym namers is the willingness to g=
row, learn and dig in.=20
I like people who run 2500s in their house, or dd-wrt. It shows they are wil=
ling to try something and learn.=
