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Re: Cisco Update

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sean Harlow)
Thu Jul 5 12:49:55 2012

From: Sean Harlow <sean@seanharlow.info>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.1207051241190.4715@soloth.lewis.org>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 12:48:48 -0400
To: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Jul 5, 2012, at 12:42, Jon Lewis wrote:

> Routers are sometimes used on networks that don't have internet =
connectivity [by design].  This seems amazingly short-sighted for a =
company that's been around selling routing gear as long as cisco.

Not to defend Cisco's idiotic decision, but in this case the devices in =
question are extremely unlikely to be used in such a situation as they =
are consumer/SOHO products.  The vast, overwhelming majority of these =
will be installed as the primary and/or only piece of network hardware =
other than the modem.  I'd imagine that anyone who knows enough to care =
about a non-connected situation was never considering these devices in =
the first place.

Frankly for the Joe Sixpack market I can't argue against the autoupdate =
idea itself, as outdated consumer routers probably account for a large =
percentage of the exploitable Linux systems out there, but the "cloud" =
tie in and privacy issues are clearly not well thought out.=


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