[154357] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: FYI Netflix is down
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rodrick Brown)
Mon Jul 2 22:20:22 2012
In-Reply-To: <92F55DE9-EBFF-48D3-B823-5A529A6CF34D@egon.cc>
From: Rodrick Brown <rodrick.brown@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 22:19:18 -0400
To: James Downs <egon@egon.cc>
Cc: Nanog <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:03 PM, James Downs <egon@egon.cc> wrote:
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> On Jul 2, 2012, at 1:20 PM, david raistrick wrote:
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>> Amazon resources are controlled (from a consumer viewpoint) by API - that=
API is also used by amazon's internal toolkits that support ELB (and RDS..)=
. Those (http accessed) API interfaces were unavailable for a good portion=
of the outages.
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> Right, and other toolkits like boto. Each AZ has a different endpoint (url=
), and as I have no resources running in East, I saw no problems with the AP=
I endpoints I use. So, as you note, US-EAST Region was "not controllable".
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>> I know nothing of the netflix side of it - but that's what -we- saw. (and=
that caused all us-east RDS instances in every AZ to appear=20
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> And, if you lose US-EAST, you need to run *somewhere*. Netflix did not cut=
over www.netflix.com to another Region. Why not is another question.
At which point are you guys going to realize that no matter how much resilie=
ncy, redundancy and fault tolerance you plan into an infrastructure there ar=
e always the unforeseen that just doesn't make any sense to plan for.=20
Four major decision factors are cost, complexity, time and failure rate. At s=
ome point a business need to focus on its core business. IT like any other b=
usiness resource has to be managed efficiently and its sole purpose is for t=
he enablement of said business nothing more.=20
Some of the post here are highly laughable and so unrealistic.=20
People are acting as if Netflix is part of some critical service they stream=
movies for Christ sake. Some acceptable level of loss is fine for 99.99% o=
f Netflix's user base just like cable, electricity and running water I suffe=
r a few hours of losses each year from those services it suck yes, is it the=
end of the world no..=20
This horse is dead!=20
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