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Re: FYI Netflix is down

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Seth Mattinen)
Sat Jun 30 11:23:56 2012

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 08:23:08 -0700
From: Seth Mattinen <sethm@rollernet.us>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1206300747240.22843@whammy.cluebyfour.org>
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On 6/30/12 4:50 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2012, jamie rishaw wrote:
> 
>> you know what's happening even more?
>>
>> ..Amazon not learning their lesson.
> 
> I was not giving anyone a free pass or attempting to shrug off the
> outage. I was just stating that there are many reasons why things
> break.  I haven't seen anything official on this yet, but this looks a
> lot like a cascading failure.
>

But haven't they all been cascading failures?

One can't just say "well it's a huge system, therefore hard". Especially
when they claimed to have learned their lesson from previous outwardly
similar failures; either they were lying, or didn't really learn
anything, or the scope simply exceeds their grasp.

If it's too hard for entity X to handle a large system (for whatever
"large" means to them), then X needs to break it down into smaller parts
that they're capable of handling in a competent manner.

~Seth


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