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Re: very confusing.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Wed Jun 13 23:09:17 2012

In-Reply-To: <4689BE5F-B3F9-49E6-A402-690537117256@delong.com>
From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:08:59 -0700
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>,
 Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

I am as amused by antispam efforts as anyone, but can we stay on list topic?=



George William Herbert
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2012, at 19:39, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:

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> On Jun 13, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net> wrote:
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>>> A trick to do on mail (USPS) spammers is take the prepaid mailing =3D
>>> envelope they often include and tape it to a brick wrapped in brown =3D
>>> paper and drop it off at the post office. They have to pay the shipping.=
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>>> If enough people do it, they go out of business.
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>> That's simply false; local postmasters have had the discretion to discard=

>> your bricks for years, AND THEY DO.
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> Yes... Bricks don't work any more. You have to get more creative.
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> http://www.dogdoo.com offers a selection of products ideally suited for th=
is purpose.
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>>> In this case, do anything you can to waste his time and resources. Call =3D=

>>> up and act interested in his services and have them go through their =3D=

>>> sales pitch as many times as you can.  Ask for them to mail you =3D
>>> literature. Have them write up proposals and quotes. Then when the last =3D=

>>> step left is to actually commit to their service tell them you were just=
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>>> pulling their chain, and why. If you eat up enough of their time they =3D=

>>> end up attending to too few real paying customers and they go out of =3D=

>>> business.
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>> But that, on the other hand ...
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> Not mutually exclusive.
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> Owen
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