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RE: CBT Nuggets streaming account

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (STARNES, CURTIS)
Tue Jun 12 08:23:35 2012

From: "STARNES, CURTIS" <Curtis.Starnes@granburyisd.org>
To: Tom Hill <tom@ninjabadger.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:23:22 -0500
In-Reply-To: <4FD67424.3030503@ninjabadger.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Yea, I know.
The one aspect of the whole thing is memorizing a brain dump is one thing; =
troubleshooting and fixing the problem with a supervisor screaming down you=
r neck is another.
Without the hands on experience, the "memorizing" of the brain dumps will s=
how up real fast in a NOC!

I was asked one time how long it took to learn networking, simple answer:
How it is supposed to work, not very long; what can go wrong and how to tro=
ubleshoot and correct the issue(s), a whole lot longer.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Hill [mailto:tom@ninjabadger.net]=20
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:42 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: CBT Nuggets streaming account

On 11/06/12 22:15, STARNES, CURTIS wrote:
> There is a reason Cisco certs are not considered "Paper Mill Certs"
> and that you have to recertify every few years to keep up with new=20
> equipment and technologies. That is what our community DOESN'T need,=20
> Cisco certs that are looked upon like lot of the other manufacturer=20
> certification courses.

Too late, sorry. Every man and his dog has downloaded PASS4SURE and memoris=
ed the answers to pass the exams. You can do this once every three years, n=
o problem.

Sure, those candidates will be absolutely useless, but that doesn't stop th=
e dilution of CCNA/CCNP certs in the market.

What will it do? It'll make the CCIE more important. What have Cisco done a=
bout it? Oh, they released a more prestigious, more expensive cert, didn't =
they? :)


Tom




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