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Re: Dear Linkedin,

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Jun 11 15:12:16 2012

In-Reply-To: <20120611183546.50220.qmail@joyce.lan>
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 12:05:26 -0700
To: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org



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On Jun 11, 2012, at 11:35 AM, "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:

>> =46rom someone who supplies an out-of-country drivers license, I'd reques=
t to
>> see their passport. =46rom someone who supplies an out-of-state drivers
>> license, I'd probably accept it, but the risks there are somewhat reduced=
 at
>> least.
>=20
> OK, someone shows you a Quebec driver's license.  You ask for a
> passport, she says, I don't have one, and points at the blue word Plus
> after the words Permis de Conduire at the top of the license.  Now
> what?

To the best of my knowledge, ICE stopped accepting DL for admission from Can=
ada several years ago.

So, I'd probably pass on the transaction unless she wanted to select another=
 form of payment.

> Although banks have different tradeoffs in risk management than you
> might like, they're not dumb.  I expect they figured that the increased
> volume from not slowing down transactions and demanding more than makes
> up for whatever the increased fraud.  This theory is reinforced by my
> observation that at my local supermarket, they don't even ask for the
> signature that they don't look at for purchases under $50.

Indeed, as I have said, for small purchases where the transaction rate can b=
e high, swipe and go makes sense to me. I'm talking about larger purchases t=
hat involve a lengthier sales process anyway.

Owen



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