[153699] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dear Linkedin,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun Jun 10 18:46:24 2012
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <201206101925.q5AJP05f038108@aurora.sol.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:40:15 -0700
To: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jun 10, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
>> The credit card companies should pull their heads out of their asses =
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>> It is much better from an anti-fraud perspective for a stolen card =
not to co=3D
>> ntain a specimen signature for the thief to learn to forge.
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>> It is far preferable for the merchant to request ID and verify that =
the sign=3D
>> ature matches the ID _AND_ the picture in the ID matches the =
customer.
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> So, what ID do you consider to be acceptable? Especially when =
traveling,
> you've just opened up a can of worms. As a merchant, do you know what =
a
> Canadian driver's license is supposed to look like, for example?
=46rom someone who supplies an out-of-country drivers license, I'd =
request to
see their passport. =46rom someone who supplies an out-of-state drivers
license, I'd probably accept it, but the risks there are somewhat =
reduced at
least.
Mostly, I'd accept any domestic government issued photo ID and/or any
passport. Generally when someone asks for my ID, I use my passport.
> The reality is that forging signatures is not particularly easy, and =
since
> merchants generally don't check ANYWAYS, the whole issue is kind of
> nebulous.
Sure. However, if you provide the forger a specimen of your signature on
the card, you're just asking for trouble IMHO. If the merchant is going =
to go
to the trouble of checking the signature, the extra step of matching =
that against
ID that matches the cardholder name instead of just matching it to the =
back
of the card is a negligible additional inconvenience while providing an
additional layer of protection.
Owen
