[153527] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Configuration Systems
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Graydon)
Thu Jun 7 19:32:02 2012
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:30:53 -1000
From: Paul Graydon <paul@paulgraydon.co.uk>
To: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu
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On 06/07/2012 12:59 PM, valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:12:09 -1000, Paul Graydon said:
>> what cloud is you've also got to go into the realms of private clouds
>> (using, for example, openstack), on your own infrastructure in your own
>> datacenter.
> Same definition. The user I've provisioned still has no idea where I provisioned him.
>
>> That's before you even start delving into PaaS, SaaS "clouds" etc.
> Still the same definition. You have no idea where you're provisioned from.
Your original definition: "cloud" == "you rented a colo, but have no
clue where". I know exactly where my colo is. I know exactly where my
physical servers are. If I run a private cloud on those servers and
provision stuff there, I'll still know exactly where my colo is and I'll
still know where my "cloud" infrastructure is deployed
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing#Private_cloud) Even that
wiki page doesn't quite go far enough in defining cloud, at least
compared to stuff people sell as "cloud" (as I said, cloud is a
marketing term, not an engineering one. Its accuracy is negligible)
Paul
