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Re: Configuration Systems

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Latham)
Wed Jun 6 22:59:25 2012

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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 22:58:48 -0400
From: Andrew Latham <lathama@gmail.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Jonathan

That is the exact question I have asked myself many times.  All of the
major players in Configuration management have a "client" program that
must run and at times requires some libraries that are newer than the
platforms a company may need to support or that clients may wish
supported.  Another issue is the secure communication  over a
proprietary or SSH connection and not allowing secured VLANs or other
services like RSH and Telnet over a point to point connection.

Also you will find that the demand for cloud systems and the complex
languages used in the "Configuration Management Systems" do not easily
translate to the existing and developing cloud infrastructure.

and stuff...


On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Jonathan Herbert <jwherbert@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Out of curiosity, why are you reinventing the wheel here?
>
> Don't take this the wrong way- I'm just curious why you're building
> something new. What does Enablement do that the other technologies you've
> mentioned doesn't?
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Andrew Latham <lathama@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Lurker speaking... beware...
>>
>> I have been talking with some folks from various industries about
>> configuration systems ala Bcfg2, Puppet, Chef, and others. =C2=A0Many of
>> them care far too much about the current nodes configuration status as
>> some admin had logged in and changed something. =C2=A0I am authoring a
>> system called Enablement that uses what ever technology needed (ssh,
>> telnet over admin vlan, rsh, etc...) to push a planned system/config
>> to the device. =C2=A0Monitoring and auditing are all the same at the mom=
ent
>> as we need historical data on when a service or port started and
>> stopped offering its planned or unplanned service. =C2=A0For a meeting
>> Thursday I am looking forward to the future of configuring systems.
>> My idea is push + netblock scanning of services. =C2=A0With stacks for
>> clouds we can startup and shut down nodes easy. =C2=A0Would a bend over
>> backwards config reader for all the "Configuration Management Systems"
>> be the best medium ground from the service provider point of view?
>>
>> Enablement.... =C2=A0Send another man to fight on the front line.
>>
>> --
>> ~ Andrew "lathama" Latham lathama@gmail.com http://lathama.net ~
>>
>



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