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Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Kozowski)
Thu Jan 25 21:21:22 1996

Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:07:51 -0800
From: Eric Kozowski <kozowski@structured.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
Cc: cidrd@iepg.org, iab@isi.edu, iesg@isi.edu, iana@isi.edu

NOTE - I've trimmed the Cc: line

Dennis Ferguson sez:

>(1) Let's try to make a realistic estimate of what the end state for the
>    IPv4 address space should be.  I.e. how many (or few) routes should we
>    be aiming at being able to carry by the time the address space is entirely
>    allocated.  Let's come to some consensus about what this number should
>    be (call it 200,000 routes for the sake of current argument), document
>    it, and have everyone include it in RFI's for future routers so that
>    the goal, whatever it is, is clearly defined for hardware vendors (who
>    can then complain if the target is unreasonable, so one can adjust
>    it down accordingly).
>

Here is a memory refresher re: IPv4 address space usage:

Tony>Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 02:15:08 -0700
Tony>From: Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>
Tony>Message-Id: <199505020915.CAA26024@greatdane.cisco.com>
Tony>To: cidrd@iepg.org
Tony>Subject: Minutes from Danvers
Tony>
Tony>			       CIDRD Minutes
Tony>
Tony>Address Space Growth Report
Tony>
Tony>The usual report on the usage of the IPv4 address space was presented.  A
Tony>revised estimate of 2018 +/- 8 years was given.  The cause for the recent
Tony>decrease in the slope of the curve was discussed, but no firm conclusion
Tony>was reached.

>And I mostly think that the IETF group into which this issue fits is not
>doing its job unless it can get us to a point where address allocation
>people and ISPs aren't issuing disclaimers about each other's behaviour,
>and instead have got some mutually agreed upon, and verifiable, goals
>and targets which everyone works towards.
>

This has been my major complaint w/ the whole CIDR/Address Allocation/etc.
debacle.  The ISPs/NSPs are doing one thing regarding address space and the
US registry is doing another.  The allocation policy is not conducive to
the reducing the number of routes goal.

We need to decide which is a bigger problem - number of routes or remaining 
address space.  We can't have it both ways.

Eric

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