[153026] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: isc - a good business
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Mon May 28 16:09:35 2012
In-Reply-To: <26627378.6326.1338234777043.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
From: George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 13:08:56 -0700
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
It's past given that large entities that can forge the use of BIND; at that p=
oint, engineering aside, Paul's point that the market and code have spoken i=
s hard to deny.
Sucks when it works against us...
George William Herbert
Sent from my iPhone
On May 28, 2012, at 12:52, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "paul vixie" <vixie@isc.org>
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>> On 5/28/2012 11:52 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> ... maybe a bit too much layer ten for my taste. ...
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>> on that, we're trying to improve. for example, we used to forego
>> features that some of us found repugnant, such as nxdomain remapping /
>> ad insertion. since the result was that our software was less relevant
>> but that there was no reduction in nxdomain remapping as a result of
>> BIND not providing it.
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> To clarify that a bit...
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> You're saying you used to decline to include in BIND the capability to bre=
ak
> the Internet by returning things other than NXDOMAIN for names which do no=
t
> exist...
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> but now you're *ok* with breaking the internet, and BIND now does that?
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> If that's what you mean, I'll explain to you why that's a bad layer 10 cal=
l.
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> *Now*, you see, we no longer have a canonical Good Engineering Example to=20=
> which we can point when yelling at people (and software vendors) which
> *do* permit that, to say "see? You shouldn't be doing that; it's bad."
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> "The Web Is Not The Internet."
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> Cheers,
> -- jra
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