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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael J Wise)
Wed May 23 01:08:41 2012
From: Michael J Wise <mjwise@kapu.net>
In-Reply-To: <20120523041040.GC23282@vacation.karoshi.com.>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 22:07:52 -0700
To: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On May 22, 2012, at 9:10 PM, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:52:52PM -0700, Michael J Wise wrote:
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>> On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
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>>> father of bind? that's news.
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>> =
<http://boingboing.net/2012/03/29/paul-vixies-firsthand-accoun.html>
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>> He was there, and Put The Fix In, to down the network.
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> Certainly news to Phil Almquist and the entire BIND development =
team
> at UCB. Paul was at DECWRL and cut his teeth on pre-existing =
code.
> While he (and ISC) have since revised, gutted, tossed all the =
orginal
> code, rebuilt it twice - and others have done similar for their =
DNS
> software, based on the BIND code base, implementation =
assumptions, and=20
> with little or no ISC code, and they call it BIND as well, it =
would be=20
> a HUGE leap of faith to call Paul Vixie the father of=20
> BIND - The Berkeley Internet Naming Daemon.
Methinks we're talking at cross purposes.
> As for being there and "Put The Fix In"... Makes for great PR =
but=20
> in actual fact, its a bandaid that is not going to stem the =
tide.
> An actual fix would really need to change the nature of the =
creaky
> 1980's implementation artifacts that this community loves so =
well.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing at all.
Paul was there to shut down the DNS changer system and replace it with =
something that restored functionality to the infected machines.
And I gather Paul will be one of the people who will turn the lights out =
on it.
Your other comments are non-sequitur to the main issue.
When those servers are turned off, Customer Support folks at many ISPs =
will prolly want to take their accrued vacation.
Aloha,
Michael.
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"Please have your Internet License =20
and Usenet Registration handy..."
