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Re: Broken domain statistics...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John-David Childs)
Thu Feb 12 14:47:25 1998

Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:09:27 -0700
From: John-David Childs <jdc@nterprise.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199802121648.LAA09039@Iodine.Mlink.NET>; from Phillip Vandry on Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 11:48:27AM -0500

On Thursday February 12, 1998, Phillip Vandry <vandry@Mlink.NET>
 had this to say about "Re: Broken domain statistics...":

> > > Tons of people have used our domain name servers without permission.
> > 
> > I periodically audit the zones which claim to be served here.  For those
> > which have been delegated lamely, I create a *primary* zone
> 
> How do you find them all? You could check your DNS logs for lame
> delegations and collect a list, but that's not all that great.
> 

You can find the first 256 domains registered to your DNS by using the
command:

	whois "server <server-handle>"  where server-handle is the handle
	assigned to your DNS host by InterNIC.

> I agree that the Internic should check nameservers before putting up a
> domain, even though it's more resource intensive. In addition to
> controlling speculators, it might just prevent or at least detect
> honest mistakes.
> 

In the latest domain-dispute policy to go into effect on the 25th,
the document states in part:

8.The requirement for operational service from two DNS servers has been
deleted. 


> The CA-Domain registration authority used to do this but I don't think
> they do it anymore.
> 
> While they're at it, I should be able to NAK a registration or domain
> modification so that it is cancelled if I don't want it on my nameservers.

Except for the fact that BEFORE-USE still hasn't been implemented :(

In fact, I've often received the "Please ACK/NAK this request" letter
*AFTER* receiving a message saying "Registration for the domain name shown
below has been completed."  NAK's rarely work in these cases unless I make
a phone call to stop it.

> 
> -Phil

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