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RE: Cogent for ISP bandwidth

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Drew Weaver)
Tue May 15 10:17:41 2012

From: Drew Weaver <drew.weaver@thenap.com>
To: "'jkrejci@usinternet.com'" <jkrejci@usinternet.com>, "nanog@nanog.org"
 <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:16:06 -0400
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Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

I'm most likely wrong, but doesn't Cogent basically just a lease dark fiber=
/wavelengths from Level3's for the majority of their POP connectivity?

I know they have purchased some assets in the past but I'm under the impres=
sion they're highly levered to L3.

Wont they eventually run into a squeeze (possibly man made and intentional)=
 which will force their pricing to go up?

Although, I suppose folks have been saying that the pricing isn't sustainab=
le since Cogent began.

This is likely off-topic for this particular thread but has anyone seen any=
 evidence yet of issues resulting from the L3/Global Crossing merger as far=
 as pricing?

-Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Krejci [mailto:jkrejci@usinternet.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:03 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Cogent for ISP bandwidth

+1 for cogent, problem free and good responsive support.

Not sure why "don't use only 1 upstream if you care about accessibility" ha=
s anything to do with cogent specifically. Are peering/de-peering disputes =
more likely to occur than all other network/routing issues combined? its ju=
st another possible cause for an outage.



------Original Message------
From: Mark Stevens
To: nanog@nanog.org
ReplyTo: manager@monmouth.com
Subject: Re: Cogent for ISP bandwidth
Sent: May 15, 2012 7:21 AM

We use Cogent as one our upstreams and have had nothing but stability and e=
xcellent support over the years. But as other said, you really need multipl=
e upstreams and cannot rely just on one whether it is Cogent or any other p=
rovider.


Mark

On 5/14/2012 6:03 PM, Jason Baugher wrote:
> The emails on the Outages list reminded me to ask this question...
>
> I've done some searching and haven't been able to find much in the=20
> last 3 years as to their reliability and suitability as an upstream=20
> provider. For a regional ISP looking for GigE ports in the Chicago/St.
> Louis area, is Cogent a reasonable solution? Our gut feeling is that=20
> they don't stack up against a Level3 or Sprint, but they are being=20
> very aggressive with pricing to try and get our business.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
>
>




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