[152742] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cogent for ISP bandwidth
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Kristolaitis)
Mon May 14 19:01:03 2012
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 19:00:27 -0400
From: Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d@alter3d.ca>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <1337034832.24326.49.camel@barney>
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I use Cogent as one of our upstreams at work, and I'll basically=20
reiterate what others have said -- overall, I'd have no problems=20
recommending them. Their routing can sometimes be a little weird=20
(though this is MUCH better now than it was a couple of years ago), so I =
wouldn't necessarily use them as my main provider for latency-sensitive=20
applications, but this isn't normally a problem with 'general'=20
traffic. The A peer/B peer stuff they used to do was definitely=20
weird, but they migrated us away from that configuration a few months=20
ago (peering with them out of TorIX). Presumably they're doing that=20
across the rest of their network. Their support has been fantastic in=20
my experience..
I'd have to say they're probably the least painful provider I've dealt=20
with overall (unlike some providers *cough*Telus*cough* who I've been=20
waiting 7 weeks for to set up a freaking BGP session...). I'd have no=20
problems picking Cogent as a provider, though of course as one of many=20
providers for redundancy (which would be no different than any other=20
single provider).
- Pete
On 5/14/2012 6:33 PM, Michael J McCafferty wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I agree with John. You can't use them as your only provider, but you
> wouldn't do that with *any* provider. I will add that they answer the
> phone quickly, and the person who answers usually has a clue, has acces=
s
> to the routers, and can be helpful. It's one of the benefits that they
> really only sell one product. Honestly, I think their support is better=
> than most and the deliver what they say or better.
>
> In the past the had a A peer / B peer setup that was a little funky, bu=
t
> I think they are getting rid of that as they upgrade hardware throughou=
t
> their network.
>
> We do also use Level3 (and others). As long as they come in to your
> facility on different fiber or otherwise meet you physical diversity
> requirements, you should be pretty happy. Add low commits to other
> providers for more diversity as needed.
>
> Good luck,
> Mike
>
> On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 15:12 -0700, John T. Yocum wrote:
>> In my experience Cogent is fine when used in a BGP mix. When we used
>> them, our service was quite reliable. Routing was funky at times, but =
we
>> never had packet loss.
>>
>> --John
>>
>> On 5/14/2012 3:03 PM, Jason Baugher wrote:
>>> The emails on the Outages list reminded me to ask this question...
>>>
>>> I've done some searching and haven't been able to find much in the la=
st
>>> 3 years as to their reliability and suitability as an upstream provid=
er.
>>> For a regional ISP looking for GigE ports in the Chicago/St. Louis ar=
ea,
>>> is Cogent a reasonable solution? Our gut feeling is that they don't
>>> stack up against a Level3 or Sprint, but they are being very aggressi=
ve
>>> with pricing to try and get our business.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jason
>>>
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